OK post any PressF1 probs bugs here please

[Biggles]

To stop folk's bug posts getting lost in traffic can you all post any ongoing probs you've got here please so we can try and work through em.

Ta.

[Chris Wilson]

The spell check doesn't want to work for me, i just get an error message
I'm using opera, if that makes any differance

Anyone offended by real bad spelling is hereby warned NOT to read my posts!

[-=JM=-]

I get logged out when making a post.

Eg. I hit Post Message and then when the next page loads up I'm logged out.

[Susan B]

Don't bother fixing the spell check Bruce, it's good entertainment! :D

Oh well, since you won't listen to me, Babe Ruth posted her error message last night here:

http://candy.idg.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=21277

[Chris Wilson]

=JR=,
I got that too, but i assumed that was because my friend Erin had been using the comp logged in as herself (for a change)

[Chris Wilson]

Oops =JM=
Sorry i misquoted yer name.
Cant read OR spell..... maybe i should go back to bed?

[Chris Wilson]

http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=21307&message=54963

this thread is getting bits from other threads randomly finding there way there....
there was another one that did that last night, but i canno quote that one.

[-=JM=-]

> Oops =JM=
> Sorry i misquoted yer name.
> Cant read OR spell..... maybe i should go back to
> bed?

You forgot the "-" as well. But that's all good, I'll blam it on the spell hecker.

-=JM=-

Just for the record spell check and preciew not working here

[Billy T]

Hi Bruce

Guess what? I managed a double post!

I responded to Chris Randal re Mouse Problems and when I clicked send message, nothing happened. After a short wait I clicked again and ended up with two posts 1 minute apart.

Cheers

Billy 8-{) :8} :8} :D

[Graham L]

The logout is only apparent . If you bump your way back to the home page, you are still logged in. It seems to be local to the thread.

[Graham Petrie]

Here of course (http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=21272)

[Graham Petrie]

Quick summary.

1. "Null" posts.
2. Logout after post.
3. Have to goto settings and click save and return (no changes made) to apply them when logging on automatically.

G P

[J ZEP]

On entering this post I got the old F1 forum prob - Page done, but it was blank! I tried a refresh, no go, another refresh no go, after about 3 refreshes it finally did load - so don't know whats going on there? Now i just tried to preview and got the same thing - Page done but empty, did a refresh and got it but with the "null post" thing. (p.s found the only way not to loose the post when it says "null post" is to use the 'Go back' on browser and its still there, otherwise if you use the button -Edit/Go back - your post has magically disappeared). Tried to preview again still got null ? I will now try to post and see if it works ? Cheers hope this is of some help to you. By the way i do like the new forum and features and it will be great when the small probs are ironed out ! Well done!

[Biggles]

Cool - looks like we've got a few unresolved problems but it doesn't seem a long list at this point. Which considering the unseemly haste with which we launched (prompted by dear old V1 PressF1's health problems) aint too bad. We'll check em out on Monday. Meantime it looks like they aren't show stoppers for most people.

[Biggles]

Hmmm - just got that logging out thing myself. I'm using an ADSL connection and a PC with Zone Alarm. I wonder if these are common to others experiencing the same problem?

tests ....

[Biggles]

... now that time it kept me logged in after posting. Strange fruit indeed ...

[J ZEP]

> I will now try to post and
> see if it works ?

After posting got the blank page and when trying to post this got the blank page when previewing - eventually after several refreshes i got the preview - but its a bit weird - key seems to be you have to constantly refresh with this prob. Anyway hope that might give you some ideas on whats going on and how you could fix it. Cheers. P.S Worked pretty sweet last night though i must say!

[Susan B]

Unfortunately I have to report that I got the "null" window when I went to preview a reply that I made a few minutes ago.

It was the first time I've experienced it and now I know what the others are talking about. Never happened during testing. :-(

[merlin-nz]

Okay Bruce,
I click on a thread "Re:Mouse Problems by Chis Randell, Jun 21, 2002 8:08 PM", it has 9 replies, but when I get there I only have one to veiw.?:|

Not the only thread mind.?:|

Then there is the problem of logging in, all okay there at the top of the page it says Welcome, merlin-nz. All fine then I click on a thread to read any thread and at the top it says "Welcome, Guest. ?:| To post a message, please login. If you do not have an account, click here to register".?:|?:|

I try to reply to thread after it is typed press "preview" and get null null, ?:|Have disarmed Zone Alarm no joy.

Press "Go Back/Edit" "Welcome, Guest. To post a message, please login. If you do not have an account, click here to register". All ready logged in remember.
To participate in this discussion you need to be a registered user.
Please log-in using the form below. If you don't have a user account, you can create a new account. (Login or Cancel)

Click on Home and "Welcome, merlin-nz".

Tried to post this but kept me logged out until i logged in again, again, again. hmmmm

Then the other wee problem I have trouble getting to the lastest threads, i usally end up one day behind, but have since tried by clicking on "Press F1 above the Welcome, merlin-nz".

Hope this helps in the problem solving department. :D

[cadifan]

Preview and Spell Checker have never worked for me either.

Oh well, i no how to spel anyway.

Oh sh*t! Where's the edit button!

[tech_mister]

Here,s a bug for ya.When I go into my settings with Nortons Internet
security enabled and ad blocking enabled and working I don,t get the save and return button at the bottom, only the save and cancel buttons
If I disable NIS the button appears.
Running xp pro with NIS 2002
Apart from a problem when I registerd everything else works fine. :)

[Billy T]

I'm feeling upbeat about it too Bruce. I think some of the problems may be peculiar to particular computer/application configurations, while others are just the inevitable discovery of residual bugs. Hell, it works far better than V1 ever did and there's only been one double post :8}.

Reflecting on the beta testing, although we gave it a hammering, it is possible that the team were working with slightly better than average set-ups and had configured much along the lines that your programmers were thinking.

Turning it loose on the great unwashed (no offence intended, just a turn of phrase) with all the problems that Press F1 is here to resolve was bound to throw up some purlers.

Take heart

Billy 8-{) :x hhh for the new Press F1

(Bugger! Wouldn't you know it, got a null when I tried to post. Hubris!)

[Biggles]

After posting got the blank page and when trying to post this got the blank page when previewing - eventually after several refreshes i got the preview

Have you tried waiting a tick before refreshing - sometimes the page says it has finished when it hasn't really. I've found IE does this on several sites at times. You wait a second or two and the page does turn up.

I'd like to establish if this is the case here because there is a big difference between a glitch like this (which can be a browser glitch) and the page not actually being served at all, which is a different kettle of fish. We need to know conclusively if it is the latter.

The posts getting mixed up in the wrong thread problem is weird. If anyone else sees it happening on threads other than the ones already mentioned here can they please post the thread URLs concerned.

[Biggles]

Reflecting on the beta testing, although we gave it a hammering, it is possible that the team were working with slightly better than average set-ups and had configured much along the lines that your programmers were thinking.

It's inevitable - even with our group of beta testers we were still limited to a comparative handful of setups. It is just the infinite variety of PC setups that is to blame. But hey, I'd rather have that than Macs any day ... (ducks for cover in case lone Mac crazy hurls abuse...)

Still, There a few weird things happening we need to track down and hopefully we'll be able to either resolve them or come up with some recommended work-arounds if they are related to security settings or firewalls.

[Graham Petrie]

Not a bug, but are the threads listed in order of the most recent replies. ie If I reply to a thread from two weeks ago, is it brought to the top of the list? If yes, why - this makes no sense. Threads should be listed in order of original post. how else can I see which posts I haven't read yet (Don't say they are marked with a red dot, because if I come here, don't read all new posts, leave, and then come back, the unread posts lose their dots unless someone has contributed to the thread).

I am struggling with the posts constantly changing order, It is making me mad, and I know I am definitely missing some.

G P

[Susan B]

Graham, I think that the way posts jump to the top of the queue when a reply is made is marvellous. No more missing out on Hot Topics that you didn't request a watch on!

If you are interested in certain posts that you haven't made a contribution to you can click on the Watch Options at the top of that post to enable it to be in your Watches. This means that you can opt to get notified by email whenever a thread gets new replies. You won't miss any then.

The threads you haven't yet read are coloured purple (or is it blue?) just like on the old forum. The red dots are merely the posts you have read previously and had new replies added since the last time you visited the Home page.

[Heather P]

Used the spell checker and lost the post. Worked the other day.

And when posting the above it ended up on another thread. Around 90% certain I posted in the right place.

[-=JM=-]

I find that when I've been logged out after posting. The URL is a candy one.

[Susan B]

OK, Mike and I have discovered that if we have our view settings on Thread View our locations remain on old settings.

For instance I used to be at Thunderdome and changed it to The Freezer. In Thread View I still see Thunderdome but in Flat View it's The Freezer.

Also, the location of non-beta Candy testers is not displayed in Thread View.

It's driving Mike nuts LOL :D

[tweak\'e]

seems to be a prob switching between pressf1 and candy.

also a space being added to url's and sometimes a
shows up.

werid.

[J ZEP]

>1 Have you tried waiting a tick before refreshing -
> sometimes the page says it has finished when it
> hasn't really. I've found IE does this on several
> sites at times. You wait a second or two and the page
> does turn up.

Bruce in a couple of instances it did come through - but probably 98% easy it was just not going any further - page done - and i gave it plenty of time just in case, so i think its the latter most times - i experimented by making a coffee and still no go - so i guess that says it all eh! Hope that helps - i use win xp home and i.e 6 if that makes any diff. Still love the new site though!!! :) ;-)

[merlin-nz]

OK Bruce,
Trying this again,

I open Press F1, on Jun 23, 2002 10:30 AM and am on a page that I assume is page 1, but the first public post is jun, 2002 8:41 PM.

At the top of page under PRESS F1 is "Welcome, merlin-nz.
Leave a message about your hardware, software or internet problem, and our server will automatically email you when one of our advisors, or another reader, answers your query " :D

So one would assume one is logged in. right (No )

Click on "MY WATCHES" there are two there and wish to delete them, so tick the boxes and get "Apache Tomcat/4.0.3 - HTTPStatus 500 - Internal Server Error" Press my Browers Back button to return to previous screen. Back to the first page where I first came in.

At the top of the screen is "My Settings-My Watches-Log Out- Post new Topic- Search-Help", I now have guessed seeing as there is no "Log In box" I am in wrong screen. I clicked on the subject "OK post any PressF1 probs bugs here please" Tried this the other day and the post seemed to tack on the bottom of the other posts, but now it's not there. (have since figuered it out:8}

If I click on page 2 I'm a guest, press browsers back button and back to merlin-nz. Hang on when in page 2 and guest at top of page, it then has a box Login/Register. OK that worked, Seems to work now.:8}:8}


So I have to get to a screen that has a Login/Register box, hmmm. ;\
Still can't delete my watches.:8} again. OK now I get it you can only delete one watch at a time.
1 hour later try replying and if works good if not sh*t again.

[Graham Petrie]

Susan, I think the reason I was having trouble is due to the pressf1/candy debarcle. Because the url changes sometimes, my links don't always show up as visited. Once they solve this prob, I think I will agree with you that the system is in fact better.

G P

[sam m]

Hi,
I am not sure where this problem fits in. I use Opera. When I was on the test group I never noticed this. (admittedly I didn't post that many, mainly because I was out of my depths when some of you brain boxes start talking)

Anyway, now when using Opera I write message, I go to preview, I go back to writing message but the font has changed?? It does not cause any problems (although I have had the 'null' message before) but I was curious whether this was an issue with the service or with my computer. I used IE when I first saw it and I never saw the fonts change there.

Any ideas

ps has anyone used spell check with with the word "IE" Interesting what the first replacement for IE is.

[Graham L]

Got a much better one. Hit "My Watches", got:

Apache Tomcat/4.03 - HTTP Status 500 Internal Server Error

Sorry, can't post the page of trail info ... first line is
java.lang.NullPointerException ... WatchManagerProxy:214,
then the rest is pretty well what we get from the Spell Check.

I thought I had the "auto logout" sussed as being local to a thread in which I do a Post. But, posted in a thread, (became Guest) went up to the Home page and stopped being Guest, went to "My Watch", got the error. Then when I came to this thread and clicked Reply, got the Login page.

[Graham L]

And a bit later, "My Watch" worked OK. Could it be that the database has record lock out enabled (of course) and the java code which produces the HTML can't cope with being locked out? Maybe it just throws a tantrum and spits the dummy. That's AI for you, behaves just like people. ;-)

[Babe Ruth]

Hi Susan B,

Just thought I'd better clarify for you that I'm a male...
at least the last time I looked...
admittedly you do change as you get older!!

Cheers, Babe. ?:-|

[Susan B]

> Just thought I'd better clarify for you that I'm a
> male...

Well I'm sure I'm not the only one on this forum who got that wrong! (adjusts mental video of "Babe Ruth") :D

[yetti]

How can I be logged in as "yetti" click on " Welcome, yetti" see the settings all ok. But have welcome, Guest at top of screen.
Then click on the subject "OK post any PressF1 probs here please" and hell I'm a guest again.
Yep you guessed it had to log on again. ?:|

[yetti]

From last post logged off from "yetti" and "merlin-nz" appeared, (ok I'm testing a differant name here). :D
Clicked on My Watches as "merlin-nz" and "yetti" watches appeared. now totally ?:|

Now it wouldn't have anything to do with cookies by any chance, because I deleted all mine to get away from "merlin-nz" always starting when I first get to the forum. And it was the only way it worked, but still having trouble with logging on and after I have logged on I'm a guest again, somtimes for three or five tries.

[NathanTheKind]

I have also just been logged off. Different computer now, this one is on a network and I don't get the option to save my Password. I think this may have something to do with being logged out after post.

Just an Idea

:)

[Biggles]

OK folks - there definately seems to be one or more bugs involved here. Graham's:

java.lang.NullPointerException ... WatchManagerProxy:214

looks like a bug. The Candy URLs need to be cleaned up I suspect. The "null" in posts which seems related to Preview not working looks like a clear bug too. We'll try to track em all down. Thanks for the concise probelm reports.

[Chris Wilson]

I come to pressf1, there is only approx 4 new posts as defined by the red dot thingys since i was last here. That seems low, but i go to one of them (-=jm=- it seems quiet) write some pointless one sentence comment, go back to the topic list, and there is now 3 pages of new posts. Either i lost a day, or computers cant count!

[Chris Wilson]

the thread "Competition for Sunday (Billy T take note) " not only joined the ranks of new since i was last here, but also turned unvisited blue.
Are these posts changing thier thread/message numbers or something?

[Biggles]

OK - we've tracked down most of these problems to a single bug - the changing url problem. Essentially, once you are logged in, what you do occurs within a single "session". When those URLs change from pressf1.co.nz to candy.idg.co.nz that session information gtes lost. You move from one (logged in) session to a fresh session. This results in:

1] visited link colours and red dots changing
2] you appear to be logged out and get shown the "guest" message
3] pesonal settings not gettng saved

and so on.

We are trying to track down what is causing this problem - the URLs are not hard coded, but it is picking up different host names at various times. When we track it down it should solve these problems.

[Biggles]

OK - we think we've fixed it. We haven't been able to replicate the problems of "null" in preview, apparent logging out after posting etc since the fix we did. Could all those who've had problem with:

1] "null" appearing in preview
2] URLs changing to "candy.idg.co.nz"
3] being logged out (i.e welcomed as "Guest") after posting or chnaging settings
4] Personal setting chnages not being saved

... try and see if you can still get the problems.

Thanks.

[Graham Petrie]

So far all probs gone Bruce. Cheers.

G P

[Neil McC]

I selected my name in a post to see what details would come up,and it showed my email address.Does everyone else get to see it as well?So tried to delete that info in my settings,which it wont allow.
Comments please.

[Heather P]

My email address has (hidden) beside it. If you look at other people's details the email does not show. Looks like a way to remind you which email address you used.

[tech_mister]

Does anyone know how I can stop being emailed update notifications.
I have it disabled in my settings ,but I still get them and lots of them

help......help....hel.....he ;)

[J ZEP]

> I selected my name in a post to see what details
> would come up,and it showed my email address.Does
> everyone else get to see it as well?So tried to
> delete that info in my settings,which it wont allow.
> Comments please.

Well Neil - i just checked for you and your e-mail addy didn't show up for me ! - as heather said it should say "Hidden" in your settings though.

[yetti]

Ok I get to PressF1 and I'm already logged on as yetti, I click on My watches and there is nothing there and i know I checked the watches box.
I then click on My Settings and I'm a Guest having to log on.
Which I do and at the opening page, ok. Press my settings and again I'm a Guest having to log on.

I don't seem to be able to get to my Watches or Settings without having to Log On and it won't let me.
Tried half a dozen times tonite, last nite as well as was the previous nite.
Log on as merlin-nz ok with My Settings, but click on My Watches and get welcome, yetti. Hell go figure. So now can't check on My Watches for merlin-nz.

Ok just dicovered the following after log out you get zip nothing seems to happen at all, just the screen flick, so you hit Refresh and you get the Guest settings.
So if logging on as merlin-nz and clicking on My Settings and getting nothing but welcome, yetti. You press the Refresh button and you get My Settings in all its glory for merlin-nz and vise a versa for yetti.

That happened in both names ( you press the Refresh Button and things look ok), for now will keep check on this.

This was posted by merlin-nz or yetti. :^O

[Neil McC]

Thanks J ZEP and Heather.

[mark c]

Last thing to load on any Pressf1 page is "ad.nz.doubleclick.net" and takes sooooooo long that times out. Something funny there.

[Graham L]

That's not a new PressF1 bug. That's the site that sends the banner saying "Your Computer Is Under THREAT!!!! Download Now". ]:)Sometimes it's too busy, so you get a timeout. You miss out on the banner that time. :-(

This is not a bug; it's a feature . See, Bold Italic. How about Bold, Italic, Underlined ? Or bold tty This is starting to look like {Latex}.

[Susan B]

Woo hoo!! The new forum is a week old and purring away like a self-satisfied cat with no more complaints (touchwood). Haven't you guys all done well. :-)

Right, so can we get rid of this thread now?

And the other Press F1 announcements (except the FAQ) while you're at it...

Ta!! ;-)

[Susan B]

PS I like your muscles Bruce!! :D

[Graham L]

Wrong, Susan. :D :D

Minor formatting problem. ;-) I'll try to regenerate it.

Here is a URL.
http://itsfree4u.co.uk/emoticons.html
here is another:
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/homepage/download.htm

Here is some ordinary text. But it has been bolded. If I put in the end_bold here, [/b], that should fix it. (and it did).
I wonder if it wants "html" ...
http://itsfree4u.co.uk/emoticons.htm
and here is some more text. No it didn't do it. Maybe it's the length of the URL?
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/homepage/download.html
This line is ordinary text, but it runs on and inserts that "
".
http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/homepage/download.html

And when I put in two <CR>s, we don't run on and don't get the bold,(but still inserts the "
").

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/homepage/download.htm

Two <CR>s followed by some plain text ... [/b]

I think it might be the length of the URL and "htm" rather than "html".

]:) I can crash anything . (If anyone's interested these are links which show where to find GIFs for emoticons).

[Susan B]

Trust you to stir up more trouble Graham! :D

What happens if I do it?

http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=21230

Is this bold too? That link was straight copy and paste.

What about this: http://pressf1.co.nz/forum.jsp?forum=1?

That link was enclosed in url brackets.

Nah, mine's OK - it's either your machine or your typing! :D

[Graham L]

It takes skill and years of experience to cause this sort of trouble. ;-) Your lines are different: mine point at a file, and the *extension* matters, as does the length . Yours have script input hung on the end of a URL. That's sort of thing is enough to frighten off any respectable bug. ]:)

[Biggles]

There was a bug which we've fixed and will upload the patch for on Monday. PressF1 has a filter which force wraps words over 80 characters in length to stop the pages blowing out. It does this by inserting a space. Of course, if the "word" is in fact a URL, then you've got problems.

What we've done is change it so that if you format your links using the URL= tag, then it won't break a long link that is in the background, so to speak, in the HTML. If you just type the URL in to your message in full, using http:// then it will still break. But this only effects long URLs, anyhow. I've changed the help file and formatting pop-up to recommend people do proper formatting of links to avoid this. (will upload this on Monday too).

We've also done the FAQ page. We'll add it into themain menu (if we can get it to fit in 800 x 600) and when you go to that page you'll just see any posts that have been tagged FAQ, ranked in order of a number the mod gives them when taggingthem as an FAQ. All these posts will still show in the normal way on the main page, but will now have a permanent "home" where folks can browse through them.

[Susan B]

Sounds really good. It's all coming together nicely now.

Bruce, is there any possiblity of getting a "roll eyes" icon at all? I find myself looking for one a lot.

[Biggles]

We should find some better emoticons at some point. Some forums have groovy animated ones that convey all types of sophisticated emotions ...

[Susan B]

LOL

(wonders: has Bruce been where Susan thinks Bruce has been....?)

[Craig Stewart]

I'm not sure if this is a bug...but over the past 24 hours I have put up two queries as separate posts (call them 1 and 2). I got a reply to 1 this morning and replied to that. Now 1 has disappeared and 2 is up twice. It may be that I did something stupid - don't know- but don't think so.

[Biggles]

Most probably not, unless you hang out at flight sim forums ...

[Susan B]

> Most probably not, unless you hang out at flight sim
> forums ...

Not me, haven't got enough grunt :-(

Those "cheers" emoticons are pretty neat, Billy T would love those....

[Susan B]

Just as well you didn't listen to me and remove this thread just yet Bruce, 'cos I've got another query. :D

It appears that some threads on the old forum with a lot of replies to them haven't come over to the new forum with all their replies attached. I noticed one of my posts from the day before going live only had half of the replies with it and now someone else has mentioned that another thread is the same.

Are the replies out there somewhere, or is there a limit to the number of replies that came with the original thread? Some of them might be important....

[Biggles]

We had real problems importing all the data. Special characters in the text would kill the import dead, etc etc and Jim had to do lots of work to get all the threads in. We thought we'd done it, but if you can give me some exmaples of threads (thread title, date of posting) then we can go compare them to the originals.

[Biggles]

OK Susan, see my post over at that XP thread (http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=13417)

We are still checking to see if there was a problem. What would be good is fi you could point me to a thread that you know you didn't add to while we were doing the BEAT but which you now think is missing posts.

[Susan B]

Nice game of tag! :D

Better stay in this thread, methinks....

Unfortunately I'm not aware of any threads that I didn't add any posts to that now have posts missing, but if I recall any I'll have a look and let you know.

[Biggles]

OK - here's the deal. The export did indeed go wrong - it missed posts that went below a certain level, i.e. if someone replied to a reply of a reply to someone's reply, blah blah. So the problem occurs most on the longer threads.

We trying to work out a way of bringing it all back in, but there are issues. For example, some of the old (pre-relaunch) threads have now been updated with new posts, which means we'd need to somehow sync the import of old data with the new data existing in those threads. Aaarrrggghhhh!

So we are currently pondering what to. Will let you know ...

[Susan B]

It's probably not worth sweating over Bruce. After all, no one else (apart from J Zep) has missed anything.... ;-)

[Chris Wilson]

by the time all the important bugs are ironed out, and this one gets the attention it probably doesnt deserve, surely the information in the threads will be obsolete anyway????

[Biggles]

This is true, hence we are considering what to do. It is a shame to loose the info though.

[-=JM=-]

> OK - here's the deal. The export did indeed go wrong
> - it missed posts that went below a certain level,
> i.e. if someone replied to a reply of a reply to
> someone's reply, blah blah. So the problem occurs
> most on the longer threads.
>
> We trying to work out a way of bringing it all back
> in, but there are issues. For example, some of the
> old (pre-relaunch) threads have now been updated with
> new posts, which means we'd need to somehow sync the
> import of old data with the new data existing in
> those threads. Aaarrrggghhhh!
>
> So we are currently pondering what to. Will let you
> know ...

The Geek of the Week thread has a lot of missing posts.

[tweak\'e]

ok small bug in cookies i think. did usual browse then went off to other sites (traitor i know, flame me later dudes). closed IE6. opened up IE, went to pressF1 and found a lot of new posts were not marked. eg posts marked as read when they in fact wern't read.

[-=JM=-]

I find the best way is to read all the new pressf1 posts and then fully exit IE before gong to other sites.

Even when you are in pressf1 new posts get marked as read because tehy are made while you are actively in the forums.

[Chris Wilson]

Same applies with opera.
I must fully exit, and come back later then the new post dots are refreshed

[Biggles]

Red dots are session based, so get refreshed when the browser session is refreshed.

[Chris Wilson]

"formatting options" does not open in a new window, it replaces what was being written and offers a close window button.
Using the "close window" button of course also removes the writing that was to be formatted.
Most annoying!

[Biggles]

It just worked fine for me. Those pop-ups use JScript. if you have JScript disabled, simply right-click and open in a new window.

[tweak\'e]

ok bruce....what do you call a session? and does it involve drinking?

[Biggles]

Not while on duty. Technically, a session is (I believe, not an expert on this), any time the browser is frired up. So that if you leave PressF1 and go somewhere else then come back, it is still the same browser session. But if you shut the browser down, then restart, you've got a new session. Session-based cookies (the temp ones) use this, as I understand it. That's why you can log in to a site, go somewhere else, come back and find you are still logged in. I think you can then build in things to cookies so that sessions have a time-out period (inactivity?). But I'm kinda guessing on that.

We looked at trying to improve the red dots so they woulf be more interactive - ie chnage within your browsing session - but it got horrendously complicated so we decided to stick with the default functionality that came with them. There were other things we could do that had a better pay off in terms of usability.

[tweak\'e]

normally what happens is when you brose another site then go straight back to pressf1 the post that you had read before still have the red dot. no real problem, my memory can last a few minutes ;-) however this time its the opposite, new posts didn't have dots, like it thinks i've already veiwed them. is the dots 'controlled' by veiwing main page or change to read after you have veiw that post it self?

[-=JM=-]

I think it would be very nice to have it so that the cookie worked on actual threads that you have accessed. But I presume that it would take a lot of work to get it like that.

What a lot of forums have is a Mark All Read button, that basically resets the cookie (I think). It's really handy becasue it saves having to close the browser all the time.

As for what a session is - it usually involves the passing around of a green substance. Not drinking.

[cadifan]

The link in the email notification http://pressf1.co.nz has a comma after it causing the link not to work.

[james]

Test post, ignore at your leisure.

[Biggles]

Well - just tested it and this is what I got in the email:

Hello Bruce Buckman,

The thread "OK post any PressF1 probs bugs here please" was updated by user "james"!

Check it out at:
http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=21304&message=58616

To stop receiving updates about "OK post any PressF1 probs bugs here please" please log back into http://pressf1.co.nz, navigate
to "My Watches" and click "Remove Email Notification" beside "OK post any PressF1 probs bugs here please".

- PC World PressF1 forum

Neither link was broken. In my email the "," at the end of http://pressf1.co.nz is not part of the link. I clicked on both links to check.

What email client are you using and has anyone else seen this?

[cadifan]

When I click on the link I get a comma between the nz and /

eg. nz,/

[Biggles]

Can you please forward me the email you received - bruce_buckman@idg.co.nz

Also - email cleint please - Outlook Express? version?

[cadifan]

I'm using Incredimail and the address in IE's address bar this http://pressf1.co.nz,/

[Biggles]

Well, the email sent out is just standard html - the url is hard-coded in there with NO ",". Why your email client is sticking a comma in I don't know - the comma is not there when the email is sent.

I checked the copy of the email you sent me, and it works fine for me - meaning again that the "," is NOT in the email, but that when you click on it your email client for some reason inserts one into the URL that gets fed to IE. What version of IE are you running?

I'd appreciate hearing from anyone else with this problem, but as far as I can see it's something that is happening at your end.

[cadifan]

Win XP with IE6

Have to go to work now to pay for it!

[Biggles]

test test test

[Biggles]

I downloaded and installed Incredimail and yep - it's the mail client. It only does that to the simple PressF1 link, not the actual link back to the message thread but it's a pain to be sure.

we'll remove the "," that follows the link, that should do it.

[Graham L]

It's very difficult to manipulate text, especially when you have "flexible" formatting, and virtually random inputs. :-( All you can do is your "best", and wait for error reports ;-) ... Cadifan: it would be a good idea for you to tell the Incredimail people about this. Help them to get it right, if you like their product.

[Biggles]

Yep, it would have been better not to have the "," sitting next to the URL without a space. We've just dumped the "," - it wasn't serving any great purpose.

[cadifan]

Thanx, works great now.

[-=JM=-]

Not really problem as such.

But the links on all the other IDG Sites all link to the old pressf1.

ie. http://www.idg.co.nz/pcworld/pcwpressf1.nsf which then links to here.

Would be a hassle to update though.

[Biggles]

Yep, we've just redirected at present. We'll get round to cleaning them all up in a bit.

[mark c]

Uh..Bruce, on the FAQs page, I can't go from Page one to page two. Neither the arrow nor the page no. work, i get sent back to the forum.

[Biggles]

hey, it's a feature not a b...

No, I can't back that up, it's a bug. We'll go fix it.

[cadifan]

Is there any way to add a thread to your watch list without actually posting on that thread? ?:|

[cadifan]

Please ignore my previous post as I've opened my eyes now! :8}

[Graham L]

FAQ 000: RTFM? ;-)

[E.ric]

Hi Bruce

Would it be possible to delete or edit ones own posting, after one has made a dick of ones self, mention no names.

From Red face Eric
(it's not my night tonight I just about posted another error)

[Biggles]

It's a feature we've got on the list for future development.

[Veale]

Dunno if its a bug or not.

Just curious as to whether posts are kept in chronological order. Just a small thing I noticed when revisiting a topic I had posted in earlier, dates and times seemed to have a will of their own!

Veale

[-=JM=-]

The topic with the most recent reply gets bumped up to the top of the list (well under the stickies)

[Susan B]

We still got a leetle problem Bruce:

This one (http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=22080)

The text in Merlin's post didn't revert to text after the link. I can see a space in the url's closing tag like this: < /a>

Is that a fault or was it designed to do that in Merlin's posts? ]:)

[Graham L]

I think it's because Merlin didn't close the URL formatting. The rest of his post is [b][u] bold and underlined

[Jen C]

Using the search function:

I used the search function tonight to look up "index.dat" and left the date range at "any". The resulting search results looks like a mad man with a yellow highlighter has taken to the page. All the spaces between each word has been highlighted along the the expected key search words as well as random letters from the general text. The same thing happens when I search "system.ini". Could it be the "." causing this?

Cheers
Jen

[Biggles]

Sorry guys - been away for a long weekend.

That problem with Merlin's post seems to be related to the URL conversion filter conflicting with one of the other filters - proabbaly word wrap. We've had it before. The best thing to do if your posting a lonish URL is to do what I've now done to the post - use the [url=] and iut's matching end parameter to link the text, rather than just pasting in the URL. This seems to get around the problem.

[Susan B]

Yeah, that's what I do Bruce, but not all other people are aware of that trick.

So, where did you sneak away to for a long weekend then? Sydney to get an X-Box? :D :D

[Biggles]

Nah, just Roturua. It rained.

[vk_dre]

i get logged off the forums when i preview messages and when i post messages some times they double post or don't get posted or get timed out.

?:| ?:| ?:| ?:| ?:|

[Biggles]

> i get logged off the forums when i preview messages
> and when i post messages some times they double post
> or don't get posted or get timed out.


Does the logging off when previewing happen every time? This used to happen before we sorted out some URL problems (which dumped you out of the session when the URL chnaged) but we fixed that one a while back.

What browser and security settings are you using?

[mark c]

I get logged out after posting, sometimes. Using Opera 6.01 on Win98se with all cookies enabled and but refuse pop-ups. If you get a bit of deja vu about this it's coz I've said it before.

Humble newbie not wishing to cause probs to noble techs. :)

[Biggles]

Yeah - it's got me beat at the moment. if the problem happen severy time a coconut then it points to something obvious - security settings etc etc - but if it is just sometimes, and you haven't changed anything, then it is much more perplexing.

How often does it happen Mark, as a rough % of the times you post?

[mark c]

Bit rough this but say 30-40%.. hey it's no big deal to me, not that it makes me X-( or anything. Must be a puzzle alright. Did lots of cobol myself years ago and it;s the little things sure can drive you wild.

[Graham L]

A suggestion Mark: Are you using the browser "Back" after you post? That can get you back to the first "Guest" page (through the login page).
I still do that, even after sussing it out. :p :D

[tedheath]

arrrrrgggggggh
The spell check is american ,it didnt like the proper queens english spelling of colour.
As a hater of all things american this hurts!

Cheers
Ted

[Graham L]

Aha, we still have Spell Check. Abracadabra. I wonder if it knows about PressF1 yet... Yes it does. :D .

But why do the spaces in the posts I found in a search display as yellow rectangles? ?:|

[Susan B]

I can tell you've been fiddling again.... links won't open in new windows any more. :-(

[Biggles]

> But why do the spaces in the posts I found
> in a search display as yellow rectangles? ?:|

Graham - what search term did you use?

[Biggles]

> I can tell you've been fiddling again.... links won't
> open in new windows any more. :-(

Grrrrr - fixed it again. I feel the need to find a permanent fix for that .....

[Graham L]

Sorry Bruce ... I put that in my short-term memory and of course that autopurges every five minutes. I obviously managed to get <space> as a search word. Clever me. ;-) (Search words are highlighted with yellow). Dunno how, can't reproduce it with "clever things" and wasn't using clever things anyway. Not a problem, just a bit disconcerting. I'll yell if I get it again.

[Graham L]

Bruce: I have found it again. :D It works consistently: either from the search panel at top left of home page, or from a search page brought up with the Search button. Spaces are yellow, and the word "a" is highlighted too. ?:| zap.exe as the search object gets results.

[Susan B]

I can confirm that - I saw it with my own eyes! :D

[Chris Wilson]

And doesn't it look pwetty??????

[Susan B]

Brucie, when I click on "Watch this topic" to threads that I haven't contributed to, I don't get email notifications when updates occur. I should, shouldn't I?

None of them are working for me and I've got "yes" enabled in all my Watch settings. :-(

[tweak\'e]

and for your monday repairs.....make the default amount of posts larger eg 50 or 100. its to small for newbies as most new posts are on page 2.

for mark c try upgradeing opera to ver 6.04.

[Chris Wilson]

No nO, what about us poor people running screens 14" screens at 800x600?
I set mine so i see 15 posts at a time, 30 is nice middle ground!

[cadifan]

Mr Heath, American spelling is far better than that "lets use as many unnecessary letters as we can" pommie English.
American spelling is becoming the international standard, get used to it.

[tweak\'e]

chris i feel your'e pain ;-)

catch is new visters will not got the the 2nd & 3rd pages so all they see is a couple of posts (stickys take up a bit of room). if they post a post it dissappears quickly off the page. have you noticed how some people are multiposting cause thier post has dropped off the first page. for those who don't like to scroll down the page they can set it to a lower amount in the settings but for default i think it should be a lot more posts per page.

btw mine is set to 100 posts per page and i have to scroll a fair bit to the bottom.

[Graham L]

We are not a subject colony of that degenerate "civilisation". The majority of the world does not live there. The fact that they can't spell is just an evidence of their execrable education standards. Their president is another.

[Chris Wilson]

Graham,
you sure you posted on the right thread??????

[Susan B]

Yes Chris. He's replying to cadifan who's defending the yanks. ;-)

Not that I know what all this has got to do with any PressF1 probs bugs...

[Graham L]

Chris: sorry, Cadifan caused that from me. Right thread, but ... ;-)

I set long pages, because it seems to take about the same amount of time for the server to format a page and send it whatever the length --- so it's quicker for me to get long pages and scroll up and down. (Less overhead -- the stuff at the start of each page is the same length, but about 1/2 of a short list, much less of a long one).

[Chris Wilson]

i just swapped to 30/page when i realized how the limited view of 15 made Grahams post seem so out of context, i'd now recommend removing the option of 15/page from the options for that very reason

[Craig321]

Hi,
Spell check. The 'ignore all' option doesn't function. As the checker continues to step through what it has identified as a typo.

Your a brave man asking for comments on your handy work. You are to be congratulated. Looks like your printer will run out of toner on Monday.
Cheers
Craig

[-=JM=-]

lst

well it works for me

lst

[Biggles]

OK - re the default number of posts. Yes, some folks might get confused and not realise they can go and set it higher if they wish, but by the same token we didn't want to make the page take too long to download. I've got ti set to 50, which might be a fair compromise. Perhaps we should run a poll - see what the consenus is? Settingt he default higher would not stop folks going in and settign their preferences to a lower figure if they wish.

Re: American English. Unfortunately Jive came with a U.S. dictionary.

[Biggles]

Re: Spell check. Yep, there does seem to be a problem there. Wiull check it out.

[Chris Wilson]

50 is good, i managed to cope in the dark ages of pressf1 when it was set to infinate, so 50 is a breeze

[Vince]

The 'search' function appears not to be working. I searched for 'motherboard, and 'systemboard', several different ways each and got no result, nothing was found.

I don't know why this new difficult forum was even considered, the old one was easy, and always worked perfectly for me! I see no improvement here. It is just harder to use!!

[Biggles]

Well, I just searched for motherboard and it worked fine:

http://pressf1.co.nz/search.jsp?search=true&q=motherboard&date=any&user=&range=10

I'm sorry you find this new site difficult to use. I'm surprised you think the old site was better, that doesn't seem to be the general opinion. The old site was much slower, plagued by time-outs and multiple posts, and not as customisable to your own preferences as this. But there's no accounting for taste, I guess.

[Chris Wilson]

vince, what browser are you using?
i'm using opera on 98se on a dunga of a machine and it works fine, it even works on that M$ browser......

ye-gads i dont want to go back to the old ways, this new format is great, the old one in the final weeks were only up on a good day, i'm yet to find downtime or any real problems since its realease There were a few during the beta testing, but even they were trivial compared to the problems the main site was having.

[tweak\'e]

bruce! have you change the setting to 50? the default is still 15.

[Vince]

I just clicked on the link in an email that there was a reply to my post from yesterday, and guess what, I had to scrole past 148 other posts; ones that had nothing to do with the subject of mine! How is that better than the old system that took me directly to the reply? When I click on the down arrow at the bottob of the scrole bar the screen slides by so fast that everything is a blur, so I have to click and stop, click and stop all the way so I know when I get there. I dont call that better. This system may please ego maniacs who are here to tell us how wonderful they think they are, but it does nothing to smooth the way for people with genuine tecnical questions. MORE INPUT EQUALS AN INFERIOR SETUP!! Simplicity breeds progress.

[Vince]

What does "Logon automatically" mean? I have ticked the box several times now with no effect; I still have to type my user name and password each time I come to this site.

[Biggles]

>When I click on the down arrow at the bottob of the scrole bar the screen slides by so fast that everything is a blur, so I have to click and stop, click and stop all the way so I know when I get there. I dont call that better.

The speed of scrolling has nothing to do with us. Period. That's your browser.

This thread is the longest one here - scrolling past 148 posts is not the norm. I have my view settings set to flat-mode. In that mode the page gets chunked, so I see 4 pages in this thread. When I clicked on the email alerting me to a new post here it brought me to page 4, with just 2 posts listed (because the email link includes the message ID). Clicking an an email link to an earlier post brings me to page 3 instead. If you switch to flat-mode and set you threads per page to 50 or 30, you shouldn't get that problem. And if you have the thread-map on, why not just click on the link to the relevant post and be taken to that point on the page, rather than scroll all the way down to it? That's what the thread map is for, after all. I suggest to experiment with the different view options.

As for auto-login not working, if you are clearing your cookies after each session then it won't work, because you will be deleting the PressF1 cookie that is used to auto-log you in. If you are using IE 6 you can adjust the privacy options on a per site basis to allow PressF1 cookies. See this thread (http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=21268&message=54613&q=auto+log+in#54613)

[Chris Wilson]

Dont worry Vince,
I also reported a couple of bugs, and then realised that the problem exsists mainly in front of the monitor, and above the keyboard ;-)

[mark c]

> A suggestion Mark: Are you using the browser "Back"
> after you post?

No, I figured that by trial and error. I go to "Home" because there I'll also see the post. :) 2 y'all.

[mark c]

This is a post in IE 6 with medium security to see if I get logged out after posting.

[mark c]

....and I'm sorry to say I did. Get logged out. Tch. Wish I could be more help. You want someone to do some exercises, give me a call. Now I'm back to the Opera..........

[Biggles]

There's got to be something else we're missing here Mark. Not being able to log-in automatically is cause the cookie isn't set - but being able to post, and then logged out afterwards seems like a different problem.

Mark, can you email me your password so I can try doing this as you from my PC?

If I read it right you've now tried Opera and IE 6 and get the same thing - right? And you've tried with any firewallls/cookie crushing programs (not just waht is in the browser, but anything else you may have installed) turned off?

[mark c]

Ok here's a post with ZoneAlarm turned off.

[mark c]

.....and I get logged out. Will do the password option. Risky but, then you're head and shoulders above the rest.

[Biggles]

OK - there's nothing wrong with the user ID/password, cause we can post fine without being dumped afterwards.

It has to be some setting in the broswer, and/or a third-party app you've got running.

Can I suggest you do a right back to basics bootup - after boot-up unload any net-related tools - zonealarm, web washer, cookie crusher - anything like that. Just make sure you've got only the browser loaded. Set security and privacy settings to either the default setting or low. The idea is to make your current state as plain vanilla as possible. Then try it. Thta at least will establish if it is something else that is being loaded or browser settings that is causing the problem.

[mark c]

Sure will, but gotta go...Thursday. Sorry 'bout the delay but got a crook Dad to help.

[mark c]

Come to think of it I only have AVG and ZoneAlarm, tried it with ZA off and can't imagine it's AVG because happened before with Norton. Security setting for Opera is enable all cookies, but....hah! Just changed to 'accept pop-ups' now let's see.....

[mark c]

Strike a light in the bleeding darkness! Didn't work either. If it's just me Bruce, don't worry about it unless you're determined to track the bug down and as you say maybe some setting of mine anyway so I'll keep fiddling. Hope I've been of some help. let you know later if it still happens. Flunked an exam once with .0001 % of the code wrong and the whole darn thing didn't 'work' because of it, tiny little 'flag reset'. Cheers for now, gotta go............:)

[mark c]

....and that worked fine.

[mark c]

Went back to 'refuse pop-ups' and that did too. Gotta go, God these things are addictive................

[Biggles]

It's pissing me off, I gotta say. It seems like it is just you but I'm sure it's a combo of things that can and will be replicated by someone else eventually. So I'd like to know the answer. Either that or have the pleasure of taking 12-gauge to your PC. Or maybe some C4. Film the explosion with a high-speed camera so I an play it back in slo-mo ... yeah oooh yeah ... (Bruce wanders off to play Day of Defeat .....)

[Susan B]

Geez you're violent Bruce! :D

Mark, when you disable zonealarm, trying disabling it from starting up at bootup then reboot your machine.

I have found in the past that disabling it and carrying on had no effect. It needs to have the startup disabled before you reboot so that it doesn't go and load itself again when you reboot, if you can understand what I'm saying.

[mark c]

> Mark, when you disable zonealarm, trying disabling it
> from starting up at bootup then reboot your machine.

Just tried that through msconfig and startup. Sorry to say still getting logged out.

[Chris Wilson]

i have a press f1 page open in opera, i get email informing me of a thread being added to, i click on the link in OE, and another window in opera opens, only this one wants me to log in ?:| this is the second time tonight that opera has asked me to log in, i'm here so much that opera never asks me to log in, so this is unusual in itself!

[Biggles]

Chris - has it kept happening? Don't think we've done anything here.

[Chris Wilson]

Bruce,
i've just got out of bed, but will monitor it....
my computer is bahaving like it needs a good reboot this morning, so it may well be me. I'll reboot when i get home, and see what happens.

[Elwin Way]

I dunno what formula you guys use for the "Hot Topics" thingy, but it seems to be dead. It hasn't updated itself much in the last week.

I would have thought too that my "ISP Woes" thread should have been on the Hot Topics list at one stage, after having reached 75 posts in about a week.

No I'm not being snarky, just think the Hot Topic thingy could be looked into..

[Chris Wilson]

I think the problem was at my end.
Bloody windows, got to remember to reboot it every few days, or it goes silly

BTW, some of us want to see a Poppa J special icon
http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=22616&message=65759

[mark c]

Bruce........my prob with getting logged out after making post (Opera 6.01 on Win98se) seems to have gone. :)

[Biggles]

There you go then - like a fine wine your browser just needed time to mature . . .

[Graham L]

I've been havinhg a bit of trouble today. Dropping with 404s, then a couple of good ones:
Apache Tomcat 4.0 error 503
type Status report
message This application is currently not available
description The requested service (This application is currently not available) is not available
That was trying for PF1 home page again ...

Then (not) getting tweak'e 's news I got the Java compiler complaining about invalid characters in the forum code.
package org.apache.jsp;
input java. ...
... etc ...
input
com.jivesoftware.forum.*
with ^ pointing at each character in turn, until it hit the limit.
Too many errors (limit 100)
16385 errors

If I can post this, it must be OK now --- have you been "improving" things?

[Biggles]

Yes - Jim had to take the server up and own a few times while testing something. Sorry about that.

[Susan B]

Don't DO that to me Bruce!

I just got a brand new external modem today and I thought it was crook already! :O

[loser]

K, I'm gonna have a hard time explaining these, but I'll try....

The little link that says "thread map is off"....
i click it and the links at the top of the page (the ones that link to each reply on that post) disappear, and the "thread map off" changes to "thread map on". this seems strange.... when the links are on, it says that they are off, and when they are off, it says that they are on!

also when using Opera, the replies and the "thread map" are not tabbed out as they are in IE.

[loser]

i just realise i'm being a retard....
it's actually "click here to turn the thread map off" isn't it? whereas i was interpretting it as "the thread map is off"....
is my hold on the english language slipping?
and i was doing such a good job of disguising my half-wittedness until now...

[-=JM=-]

Is it at all possible to have it so that the cookie works on the individual threads as opposed to the whole page.

Also it would be nice if the tracking as to what threads we have read was done on the server as opposed to via a cookie on our computer.

When at college and I quickly check the forums and post a reply. Of course once I get home the new posts are those since I last exited the forums. Even though I only read one thread.

[Chris Wilson]

There appears to be a blank topic, thus (http://www.something.net.nz/f1/images/wot.jpg)
I cant describe what i mean well, it's too early in the morning. Its glaringly obvious if you look @ the link.

[Heather P]

Mike started it. He was busy finding holes in the system. Rest assured it was done deliberately. Take 3 coffees then have a look (can get into it by going to next topic then pressing link for previous topic)

[Susan B]

I have requested a "Watch Topic" on several threads that I haven't contributed to but never received email notifications when new posts were added.

Now I know why - looking in "My Watches" those threads weren't marked to have email notifications.

The option in my settings to receive notifications is enabled and I would have thought that these threads would have automatically been included.

It must be a bug! (You haven't had any bugs for a-a-a-ages now).

[Elwin Way]

Hey! Those blimmin HP Flash ads killed my Java! X-(

PI 266 / 32Mb / 4Gb / crawling laptop / opera 6.04 / java 1.3.1

Friggin HP ... they make crap computers and now they are trying to kill everyone elses by making crap ads!

Ok, ignore that last statement.

Well, the ads crashed my Java, which in turn crashed Opera.

I figure this because 1- Only sites with these HP ads crashed Opera, and 2- After reinstalling Opera and Java (I had to!) and disabling Java within Opera, it now runs fine. Re-enabling Java stuffs everything up again.

Incidentally, Press F1 runs fine without Java... :D

[Chris Wilson]

I'm getting the same problem that was earlier noted with the combination of Win98, Opera 6.03, and the new java based HP add on the top.
In essence since that ad went up the top, there have been 3 occasions where i have gone to PressF1 and watched my darling computer freeze completely.
I am currently d/loading opera6.04, and hope that that will remove this bug.

[Chris Wilson]

And just after posting the last moan, the same ad wanted to place itself in the taskbar, in the ad built into opera, and then all around behind the ad in the free version of opera, it was almost like a skin for the browser.
Most annoying thig was then endless loop of blue screen errors, and me escaping them by putting a pecil into the hole where my reset button hides....... i hate doing that!
anyway, i aint spellchecking this, till i get opera6.04 in, im out of here....

have another go in 10!

[Elwin Way]

It's got something to do with Java, and 6.04 won't make any improvement.

You can fix this though by going pressing <alt>-P, multimedia, and take the tick out of Enable Java.

It has worked fine since.

[Biggles]

We are attempting to exclude the ad from being seen on Opera browsers via the DC system. it will take a couple of hours for the chnage to roll through, but hopefully Opera users shouldn't see it by this afternoon.

[John Grieve]

This is an error I keep getting opening the front page. Always appears in 5th post no matter what. Cannot always view the error message from the link generated.

PressF1 Error Summary
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PressF1 Version: 2.2.2
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Stack Trace:

java.lang.NullPointerException at com.jivesoftware.forum.ForumMessageProxy.getSubjec t(ForumMessageProxy.java:75) at org.apache.jsp.forum$jsp._jspService(forum$jsp.jav a:2021) at org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(Http JspBase.java:107) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWra pper.service(JspServlet.java:202) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFil e(JspServlet.java:382) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspSe rvlet.java:474) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.in ternalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.do Filter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invo ke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invo ke(StandardContextValve.java:190) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(St andardContext.java:2343) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke( StandardHostValve.java:180) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.in voke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke (ErrorReportValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invok e(StandardEngineValve.java:174) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpRequestHand ler.handle(WarpRequestHandler.java:217) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnection. run(WarpConnection.java:194) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

PressF1 Error Summary
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PressF1 Version: 2.2.2
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Stack Trace:

java.lang.NullPointerException at com.jivesoftware.forum.ForumMessageProxy.getSubjec t(ForumMessageProxy.java:75) at org.apache.jsp.forum$jsp._jspService(forum$jsp.jav a:2021) at org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(Http JspBase.java:107) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWra pper.service(JspServlet.java:202) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFil e(JspServlet.java:382) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspSe rvlet.java:474) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.in ternalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.do Filter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invo ke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invo ke(StandardContextValve.java:190) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(St andardContext.java:2343) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke( StandardHostValve.java:180) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.in voke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke (ErrorReportValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invok e(StandardEngineValve.java:174) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpRequestHand ler.handle(WarpRequestHandler.java:217) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnection. run(WarpConnection.java:194) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

PressF1 Error Summary
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PressF1 Version: 2.2.2
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Stack Trace:

java.lang.NullPointerException at com.jivesoftware.forum.ForumMessageProxy.getSubjec t(ForumMessageProxy.java:75) at org.apache.jsp.forum$jsp._jspService(forum$jsp.jav a:2021) at org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(Http JspBase.java:107) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWra pper.service(JspServlet.java:202) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFil e(JspServlet.java:382) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspSe rvlet.java:474) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.in ternalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.do Filter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invo ke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invo ke(StandardContextValve.java:190) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(St andardContext.java:2343) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke( StandardHostValve.java:180) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.in voke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke (ErrorReportValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invok e(StandardEngineValve.java:174) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpRequestHand ler.handle(WarpRequestHandler.java:217) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnection. run(WarpConnection.java:194) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

PressF1 Error Summary
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PressF1 Version: 2.2.2
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Stack Trace:

java.lang.NullPointerException at com.jivesoftware.forum.ForumMessageProxy.getSubjec t(ForumMessageProxy.java:75) at org.apache.jsp.forum$jsp._jspService(forum$jsp.jav a:2021) at org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(Http JspBase.java:107) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWra pper.service(JspServlet.java:202) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFil e(JspServlet.java:382) at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspSe rvlet.java:474) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.in ternalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247) at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.do Filter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invo ke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invo ke(StandardContextValve.java:190) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(St andardContext.java:2343) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke( StandardHostValve.java:180) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.in voke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke (ErrorReportValve.java:170) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invok e(StandardEngineValve.java:174) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566) at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472) at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpRequestHand ler.handle(WarpRequestHandler.java:217) at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnection. run(WarpConnection.java:194) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

[Biggles]

This just happened John - we're looking at it now.

[Jen C]

Your PressF1 announcements post of Apologies for PressF1 unavailability... has gone south down the page. Isn't supposed to stick up the top with the rest?

[Susan B]

:O They're not sorry anymore!!

[Elwin Way]

Hey Bruce, the Hot topics list has fallen off!

[Biggles]

Nope - it aint fallen off. We took it off cause it was soooo confusing. We are going to replace it with a PC World subs promo to try and convince all the slackers who don't have a sub to sign up.

[Elwin Way]

Oh well, you know my excuse... I'd luv a sub but...

[Biggles]

You know, maybe they should have a choice of prizes on F1 - games and what not for sure but if you want to have a free sub as your prize instead, you could choose that.

[Elwin Way]

Yea, good idea. I'd choose a sub as the only enjoyment I'd get out of any game you guys send me is looking at the pictures on the box. Not enuff hardware.

But a sub... yea! :D

[teachme]

somtimes i want to reply a post the reply word isnt there for me to click
therefore i cant reply a post

oh yeah im poor can u get me a job as a morderator,,,,,,,,,,,,pleasesssssssssss or somthing else if u can

[Poppa John]

Bruce B. I am not a "Slacker" I suffer from the same problem as Elwin, $$. Yes I would love to be able to buy a PC World Sub, don't make me feel guiltier than I do, please. My Doctor keeps telling me I don't eat properly, if I didn't have to pay an ISP I probably could. So its a question of Food v ISP V PC World. What would you choose? My "Verbiose Flippant" sense of humour keeps me going, even if it does upset some folks. Sorry about that. Serious Poppa John :(
PS Now I've given myself the miseries, damn, I hate it when that happens PJ

[Graham L]

There might be an outdated link on PC World pages: see "Java Virtual Machine on XP" ... thread 23482.

[Biggles]

It has to be that bloody ad again.

[Graham L]

But in this case, he doesn't have Java. But the PC World link didn't give him Java. When he downloads the Java, he will be able to see "that" ad.
Strangly, I see the HP ad, but with "Done, but with errors on page." That's on these locked down Library vpublic PCs and diskless W-CE terminals.

[Biggles]

PC World isn't linking to anything. We don't have anyhting there to provide you with a link to Java. Anyone else able to replicate this problem?

[Graham L]

Aha, I've just read his posting again: that will have been the MS browser saying "I don't know nuffin' about that, get a download." So it's Bill's minions treating their customers badly again. "Customers? Service? WHAAAAT? "

[sal]

get rid of jive i say :P

grtz sal.
nz

[-=JM=-]

What is wrong with Jive.
Could you please give us some reason as to why they should change the forum after only just setting up.

[Biggles]

> get rid of jive i say :P
>
> grtz sal.
> nz


And why would that be Sal? Do youy have some deep knowledge about Jive you'd like to share?

[sjay51]

Hello

A friend of mine has asked me to look at her Compaq computer running windows 98.

The computer will load with only this error message:
System Board Failure (182)

Is this a job for the experts!!

Thanks

sjay51

[Chris Wilson]

sjay 51,
please go to the top of the page, and click the button that says "post new topic"
this here is the section for reporting bugs on the forum itself, and is direct monitered by the webmaster for that reason

.. what belongs here is spell check died.. wheres the button gone?.. email notification from forums died.. that sort of thing

[Alan Carpenter]

Spell Checker

The instructions say:
...You can press the "Done" or "Cancel" buttons at any time to return to the message form....

All that's lacking is a "Done" or "Cancel" button. ?:|

The butons that are there (GoBack/Edit and Post Message) work fine, though. :D

I'm using Opera 6.4, Java 1.3 (from the August PCWorld disc.)

Cheers,
Alan

[sal]

i notice that every page here loads with an error message in the status bar,eg 'Done, but with errors on page.' i assume u guys are using templates, so one must have a coding/scripting error on it

im using ie6

grtz sal.
nz

[Biggles]

But Sal - we don't see any such error at this end. I get no "Done but with errors on page" message and I'm also using IE6. Anyone else see this?

[sal]

hmmm, im at a cafe at the moment, and there are no errors, maybe its just my computer, i know its got nothing to do with java, cos it prompted me to download a java machine, but i cancelelled that, and everythings still fine, false alarm?

grtz sal.
tga

[Biggles]

Well, if you can't see an error on the page - i.e it gives you the error but everything still works fine, then I'd say don't worry about it.

[Graham L]

I mentioned it in this thread on Aug 12 . I have that message on page right now. The icon with it is the yellow triangle with "!" over a document icon ... I assume that indicates an error in script processing. It's probably a security level problem in Java.

Doesn't bother me. It's not crashing anything. :-)

[Biggles]

I'd say that's likely. But if it isn't causing any probs I'm loath to go chasing it.

[Graham L]

Exactly... it's not broken. It's almost certainly a client end setting. It's not the HP advertisement, although I noticed it about when that started. It MIGHT be in doubleclick's code though. :D

[Biggles]

> Exactly... it's not broken. It's almost certainly a
> client end setting. It's not the HP advertisement,
> although I noticed it about when that started. It
> MIGHT be in doubleclick's code though. :D

Possibly so, in which case I'd be wasting my time finding a fix cause as far as you guys are concerned ....... it is fixed!

[sal]

ok, so my last post in this thread was pointless, hopefully this one is, or hasnt already been addressed

i noticed that this thread (not sure bout others) doesnt obey my rules, eg 'display15 posts per page'.

am i understanding this setting right?

grtz sal.
tga

[Biggles]

Sal, from the help page:

1. Number of topics listed per page: You can set how many threads are displayed on the home page and subsequent pages. Options are 15, 30, 50 and 100.
2. Number of messages per topic listing: You can also choose how many posting are displayed per page in a message thread. However this feature is only available when using the flat-thread map mode. In threaded mode all postings will always be displayed on a single page. Options are 15, 30, 50 and 100.

So, if you are in threaded, not flat mode, you'll get everything on the same page.

[sal]

ok, thanks Bruce

grtz sal.
tga

[parry]

Hi has something gone haywire with replying to posts? I clicked reply to a post halfway through a thread and my reply when at the bottom of the thread rather than underneath the comment I wanted to reply to.

cheers
Parry

[Susan B]

Parry, you'll only see your replies directly underneath the post you replied to if you have the thread map option on.

[parry]

Hi Susan thanks I didnt know that. But... on looking at my settings the thread map is on and my view mode is threaded. Maybe i clicked on the wrong the reply but I didnt think so. Nevermind.

[Susan B]

Oh.

Well maybe Billy's bubnchs are back...

[Jen C]

It seems lately that a lot of very old threads are being dragged up by new posters. They are obviously been doing a search on that subject, and the results displayed start from the oldest date.

Is it possible to have the search results displayed with the most recent posts first instead? This would also save you from wading through pages of old stuff that may not necessarily be relevant anymore.

[sal]

just re-initialising the 'original' topic name, lol

grtz sal.
tga

[sal]

ok, i think this is a good idea

when you are in flat-thread mode, and you go on a thread with multiple pages (especially this thread), to get to the last page, you need to click the highest posted link to what ever page, having to go through several different pages, just to get to the last posted post. there should be a 'Last Page' link on the nav

grtz sal.
tga

[Biggles]

> when you are in flat-thread mode, and you go on a
> thread with multiple pages (especially this thread),
> to get to the last page, you need to click the
> highest posted link to what ever page, having to go
> through several different pages, just to get to the
> last posted post. there should be a 'Last Page' link
> on the nav

Ummm - but there is.

Example 1, Messages per Topic Listing = 15:
Page links home page (http://idg.net.nz/gifs/pressf1a.jpg)

Example 2, Messages per Topic Listing = 100:
Page links home page (http://idg.net.nz/gifs/pressf1b.jpg)

My settings: Bruce's settings (http://idg.net.nz/gifs/pressf1c.jpg)

I always run in flat mode, and because I'm sitting right here I have both Topics per page and Messages per topic listing set to 100. On a dial up you'd likely want it set to less. I just click on the last page link, then either scroll to the bottom of the page or click on the last posted link in the threadmap at the top of the page. No need to scoll through multiple pages.

[Chris Wilson]

Jen C,
....about your suggestion a couple of posts above
I beg to differ.. the bringing up of an old thread to the front is downright handy, and keeps repetition down a wee bit. Heres an personal example of how i use it to keep things relevant & tidy.

I'm learning Linux, I'm finding it a bit of a learning curve, as i did with 'doze, so doing it in wee stages. When I have the time to have a serious look with out being in my usual state of being psysicly and emotionally exausted (don't ask) i bring This thread (http://pressf1.co.nz/thread.jsp?forum=1&thread=23255) back from the dead. In a week or 2 i hopefully will have another go.

This to me makes a lot more sense than starting a new one every time i'm stuck. All the old stuff about the set up, what has been tried, what failed, what i didn't get, what i now understand, is all there. If i started a new post each time there would be a lot of time waisted reinventing the wheel not only by myself, but by those who have helped me.

Of course any lurker wishing to find out about setting up a linux/98 network will gain alot more form this thread than having each stage of Q & A split between several threads.

[Biggles]

What Lai Ping is currently working on implementing is a flag that will pop up a warning message when someone goes to post to an old thread (1 month old). It won't stop you posting, merely point out that the thread is old and ask you whether you really do want to post a reply.

[Chris Wilson]

Nice one Bruce!
So we get a compromise between both schools of thought, fresh horse AND following a thread through irrespective of age......

Hoorah to Lai Ping



Chris.

[Biggles]

Okay, that's done.

[Chilling_Silence]

I just got an error message and it's persistant, not letting me post, I've saved it to a txt file, what should I do (Post a NEW thread I mean)

Cheers

Chilling_Silence

[Basil Pesto]

I'm getting the same treatment as Chilling Silence

[Susan B]

Cheers to Lai Ping - old threads now get the warning message! Well done. :-)

[Biggles]

We are looking at the problem now.

[Biggles]

OK - that posting problem should be fixed now.

[Mr Wilson Sir!]

This is what i get when i try to update my profile in Netscape:

opps theres been an error (or something to that effect) details below.........!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Stack Trace:

javax.naming.directory.SchemaViolationException: [LDAP: error code 65 - attribute 'jobType' not allowed]; remaining name 'uid=Mr Wilson Sir!,ou=people,ou=NZ,o=IDG'
at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.mapErrorCode(LdapCtx.jav a:2767)
at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.processReturnCode(LdapCt x.java:2682)
at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.processReturnCode(LdapCt x.java:2488)
at com.sun.jndi.ldap.LdapCtx.c_modifyAttributes(LdapC tx.java:1290)
at com.sun.jndi.toolkit.ctx.ComponentDirContext.p_mod ifyAttributes(ComponentDirContext.java:258)
at com.sun.jndi.toolkit.ctx.PartialCompositeDirContex t.modifyAttributes(PartialCompositeDirContext.java :175)
at com.sun.jndi.toolkit.ctx.PartialCompositeDirContex t.modifyAttributes(PartialCompositeDirContext.java :164)
at javax.naming.directory.InitialDirContext.modifyAtt ributes(InitialDirContext.java:149)
at nz.co.idg.ldap.LDAPWrapper.update(LDAPWrapper.java :195)
at org.apache.jsp.settings$jsp._jspService(settings$j sp.java:909)
at org.apache.jasper.runtime.HttpJspBase.service(Http JspBase.java:107)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet$JspServletWra pper.service(JspServlet.java:202)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.serviceJspFil e(JspServlet.java:382)
at org.apache.jasper.servlet.JspServlet.service(JspSe rvlet.java:474)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet .java)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.in ternalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:247)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.do Filter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:193)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invo ke(StandardWrapperValve.java:243)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invo ke(StandardContextValve.java:190)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContext.invoke(St andardContext.java:2343)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke( StandardHostValve.java:180)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorDispatcherValve.in voke(ErrorDispatcherValve.java:170)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564)
at org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke (ErrorReportValve.java:170)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:564)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardEngineValve.invok e(StandardEngineValve.java:174)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invokeNe xt(StandardPipeline.java:566)
at org.apache.catalina.core.StandardPipeline.invoke(S tandardPipeline.java:472)
at org.apache.catalina.core.ContainerBase.invoke(Cont ainerBase.java:943)
at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpRequestHand ler.handle(WarpRequestHandler.java:217)
at org.apache.catalina.connector.warp.WarpConnection. run(WarpConnection.java:194)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484)

[Mr Wilson Sir!]

o god.. i just read what i wrote, and it proves beyond all dought that i went to school JUSt to eat my lunch...

I was trying to change my email address as the one attached to my profile was incorrect. I first filled the form out incorrectly, with some feilds unanswered, yet it was happy to tell me in a non total breakdown sort of way that i should go back and fill the rest of the form in.. I did this and it spat the dummy, several times as i tried, several times it spat the dummy..

I tried to be good and have a valid email addy, honest i did!

[Biggles]

Oh dear Chris, you've really porked it haven't you?

Send me an email, so I've got your email, and I'll put it in the email field for you. Hoenestly, I swear that error wasn't the code projection of my frustration with with bad emails .....

[a]

this is sal here, a while back when i first registered, i done the whole 'robo' thing, i made a login 'robo'

now you said u were going to clear it up, but i am still able to make the accounts. just bringing it to your attention, as small a matter as it is (i bet you already knew about it, and it doesnt matter :?)

grtz sal.
tga

*you can delete this account if you wish, but today i made a new account 'sal', can i pleeease keep it!, its like 'my' forum name (apart from forumadmin, which is mine in mine own forums :P)

[Biggles]

Sal, you're goign to have to explain that one a bit better. What kind of accounts are you still able to create?

[sal]

well, i guess i thought u were going to block any illegal characters when u said u were going to stop the 'creating same login as someone' bug (i guess its a bug?), around the time i made a 'robo' login (i was just testing!), but you are still able to

see, although you have a minimum character amount for login names (which is 4), you are still able to make login names shorter than that using the method


Login: &#(insert alt code here)


this way, you can also use a login which has already been taken (i will give you a demo), now it isnt very important, but it can be prevented if u wish,

grtz sal.
tga

this is the demo, now although it is painfully obvious i am not Bruce Buckman (main clue being no mod icon) you are still able to do this as other registered users (although another clue there would be the post count).

grtz sal.
tga

[sal]

delete that account if wish (as if you weren't going to, lol)

grtz sal.
tga

[Biggles]

Cheers sal - you are correct in that we were going to fix that. Further, we actually did! So I'll go and check what has gone wrong. Ta.

[Mr Wilson Sir!]

test post..
first it wouldn't let me update Mr Wilson Sir!.. (see previous post)
now after getting your email Bruce, as you will be aware, it wouldn't let me log in. BUT it did let me change my password, and then log in, which i have done, and here i am....

About to hit the button and hope.. fingers crossed.. arms crossed.. legs crossed... hitting mouse button with nose... *click*