WinXP File-sharing issues

[Chilling_Silence]

Greets all,

Been a while since Ive had to make a post, mostly its just cleaning up ;)

Anyways....

Familys PC had this problem, we reformatted when changing motherboard / cpu and we're back with the same problem after using it for a few days.

Basically the network drives dont work. They were previously mapped fine and worked no problem. It is NOT a permissions issue because I know the xbox can connect to MY PC fine without username/password.

So anyways, on the familys PC when i try and open the Mapped Network Drives in My Computer I get the error:
An error occured while connecting to \\192.178.0.7\shared
Microsoft Windows Network: The network location cannot be reached.
This connection has not been restored

Or if I try and type in \\192.168.0.7\ into the My Computer address bar I get:
Windows cannot find \\192.168.0.7. Check the spelling and try again or try searching for the item.... ....

Now I KNOW its fine coz I can access the shares from other PCs on the LAN here, and I can also ssh / scp / http / ftp into my PC fine from the familys, so I dont understand why the familys PC wont like the shares :(

No firewalls present except the standard windows one

Suggestions?

Cheers


Chill.

[Speedy Gonzales]

It sounds like something isnt working on the PC you formatted.

Someone did reinstall the drivers for the NIC on this, didnt they?

Or the NIC is dead? Have you tried another NIC (PCI NIC)??

Was it a folder someone created?? then shared?

Did someone manually enter the ip address in for this PC that was formatted?

If this PC is connected to the rest of the network, are the LEDS on the back of it lighting up?? If you're using a hub, try another port?

[Chilling_Silence]

Nah, its happened both times, before and after the format.

No idea about the NIC drivers, good point, will check. Seems VERY odd that ssh traffic etc works fine. It WAS a PCI card (cheapo RTL8139 from DSE) but now is the onboard one on the mobo.

If you have a look again:
The problem is my familys PC accessing network shares on other PCs
I know its not a problem with MY PC coz mines a linux box and ive disabled the permissioning. The Xbox can also access my PC fine.

Shouldnt matter about the familys IP address because it can access the other PC fine, just not through SMB.

So its not the network, networking is fine, it looks like something wrong with SMB.
I know what lights and things are, again, follow through the chain of thought coz they're not terribly relevant ;) Like i said, scp & http from the familys PC to mine work perfectly!

Thanks for the idea about the drivers though, cant hurt to check it out i spose

[berryb]

So it was working for a few days after the format? I'd start with the replacing the NIC.

[Chilling_Silence]

Why? Had the same problems BEFORE the format, BEFORE the motherboard was changed (And I HAD a PCI NIC before)...

[berryb]

Missed your second post. Agree unlikely the NIC. Must be SMB issue.

[Myth]

New motherboard doesnt have nvidia firewall by any chance?
I would also kill the standard windows firewall. One issue I had with SMB (samba I assume) was that it used port 139 as well as another I couldnt find, and it kept getting blocked by Firehol.

[Chilling_Silence]

I believe there IS an nvidia graphics card installed, not an nvidia LAN card though...

[Speedy Gonzales]

Whats the brand/model of the new mobo??

[Chilling_Silence]

Still having problems after playing around a lil with the LAN drivers.

Will post the model number of the mobo later tonight :)

[Speedy Gonzales]

The NV Firewall, I think isnt a LAN card. Its onboard more recent mobos.

And it can screw things up, including corrupting files you download.

If its enabled.

[Chilling_Silence]

I really cant be assed going up to the house right now to check it out and coz im such a lazy sod i havent setup anything like VNC...

Anyways, no, its not any of the nForce-related motherboards or anything. The LAN card is a Realtek one IIRC.

[kingdragonfly]

Just to clarify:
* You have several network devices.
* All but one can connect to \\192.178.0.7\shared
Or did I miss something?

[Chilling_Silence]

Correct!

And I KNOW its not a permissions problem either because \\192.168.0.7 is a linux box and Ive set it up so it needs no authentication :)

[Chilling_Silence]

Any other suggestions ladies and gents?

[Rob99]

The linux box is on
Clashing IP's
Subnet mask
Delete the mapped drive then setup again
Try a browse in my network places
Check cables

LOL your sig makes me want to PM you :D

[Myth]

Not much to go on but you could look here.. (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-386305-highlight-connection+restored.html)

[Graham L]

Workgroup=WORKGROUP (or the same on all) for Windows Netwrpok?

[Chilling_Silence]

The problem is NOT the server

As mentioned, the samba server is FINE, I have NO PROBLEMS setting that up coz its accessible from other boxes

Yes, workgroups the same

[Graham L]

The "\\192.168.0.7\" address might not work because the last "\" is specifying the root directory of the Linux box running the Samba server.

But it's not getting far enough to hit that possible problem. The "... can't find..." and "...cannot be reached" messages indicate a routing problem. Since it "should" be on the same LAN, there shouldn't be any routing needed. :groan: Somehow that address doesn't appear (to MS) to be on the same LAN. ;)

Subnet masks?, actual IP address of that client computer? (yes, you "know" it's right).

[Chilling_Silence]

Its worked previously with the mapped drives, they're still *mapped* but just disconnected.
Nothings changed on my PC, i know this for certain. so its the desktop PC

Subnet is 255.255.255.0, IP is 192.168.0.8

No conflicts in IPs, Gateway / primary DNS = 192.168.0.1

[Graham L]

Have you done as Rob99 suggested and unmapped the shared drives and remapped them? :D

[Chilling_Silence]

I did with one of them, and it didnt work... I have like 6-7 shares on from the family PC mapped to my linux box...

Gave me an error it couldnt find it, something or rather similar to that, il try again later :)

[Chilling_Silence]

Ive tried a few other things today, havin a fluff around, disabled the windows firewall, nothing... un-installed and re-installed the LAN card from Device Manager, nothing...

Its becoming a real pain having to use WinSCP to copy files from the familys PC to my desktop just so I can use them on the xbox (Xbox works fine grabbing the pics off the share on my desktop...)

[Graham L]

Unmap all of the shared directories on that client. Then try again. It's a setting on that machine.

[hoppo829]

Change the IP to 192.168.0.XX (xx being something random). then try to ping the other computer. when you can ping the other computer you will be able to see the network drives

[Chilling_Silence]

Wrong

I can, Ive tried a static IP and a DHCP address. Read back through what Ive written:
I CAN ACCESS THE OTHER MACHINE FINE.
Its only SMB, other things like scp/ssh/http work between the two without a worry, and I know that SMB is setup fine because my xbox and my brothers box can get to My Desktop fine. Its JUST the familys PC and its JUST SMB (Windows file sharing).

Thanks Graham, just tried that, familys PC is still not happy and not working.

Tried installing another NIC just in case it was some Windows-firewall-related setting to just that one, no joy either, so I took it out and im back to just the onboard. Seems like the logical outcome but I had to try just to be sure

Thanks guys for all the suggestions to date, keep 'em coming, im more and more anxious to get this resolved.

Cheers


Chill.

[Chilling_Silence]

Ive just noticed that the CD-Writer drawer has a tendancy to like to close itself.

I noticed this not long before I did my last format. Thought nothing of it (faulty hardware came to mind) until I booted a Live Linux CD just earlier and it didnt do that. Was able to map to the network share on my own desktop without any permissions.

100% a configuration issue now. Just not too sure about what thou... ran a spyware check, came up pretty clean with one or two cookies flagged but thats about it

[Erayd]

try
net use * /d. then remap.

[Chilling_Silence]

Thats all fine and dandy, its removed them all now...

Tried re-mapping with net use z: \\192.168.0.7\external
After asking for a username (to which I just pressed Enter) it said:
System error 1223 has occurred.
The operation was cenceled by the user.

Sooo... One thing that I _did_ notice was that in My Computer all the drives WERE showing the "connected" icon as opposed to with the "x" to say it couldnt re-connect?!

Odd indeed!

[Chilling_Silence]

Err.... *bump*

Anybody else have any suggestions? Surely not all hope is lost... Ive tried a reformat too, so that cant be a good suggestion :(

[stu161204]

I don’t know what you have & haven’t done & at the moment I don’t have time to read thru this thread ( I will do this latter on)

One suggestions is have you tried tacking all the shearing off the win xp computer? & tried putting it back on?

[Erayd]

Thats all fine and dandy, its removed them all now...

Tried re-mapping with net use z: \\192.168.0.7\external
After asking for a username (to which I just pressed Enter) it said:
System error 1223 has occurred.
The operation was cenceled by the user.

Sooo... One thing that I _did_ notice was that in My Computer all the drives WERE showing the "connected" icon as opposed to with the "x" to say it couldnt re-connect?!

Odd indeed!
You could try entering the 'nobody' user (for the linux box) and no password, rather than just hitting enter. Then see what it does. Perhaps WinXP feels it has to supply credentials, even if not needed. Weird.

[Graham L]

Is that the only one with multiple user accounts? Samba might want to know the names of allowed users, even if it doesn't want passwords? It must be a configuration thing.